Mailman not available anymore - ISPconfig 3.2.9 / Ubuntu 22.04

Discussion in 'General' started by KoS, Dec 4, 2022.

  1. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I just wanted to upgrade my mailserver to Ubuntu 22.04 as ISPconfig 3.2.9 supports it -> https://www.ispconfig.org/blog/ispconfig-3-2-9-released/
    Luckily I realized beforehand that Ubuntu 22.04 does not come anymore with mailman 2 but with the newer mailman3, which doesn't seem to be supported by ISPconfig. https://forum.howtoforge.com/threads/mailman3-on-ispconfig3.84253/
    It would be great to have that mentioned somehwere in the release notes, so that people do not upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 if they want to use mailman.
    The installation manual for ISPconfig, support Ubuntu 22.04 does look like it still supports mailman? https://www.howtoforge.com/ispconfig-autoinstall-debian-ubuntu/

    How are others handling the missing mailman support when upgrading to Ubuntu 22.04?
     
  2. Th0m

    Th0m ISPConfig Developer Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

  3. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Thanks @Th0m for the confirmation that there is really no way forward (currently) with mailman, Ubuntu 22.04 and ISPconfig.
    I'll see if I wait with the upgrade of Ubuntu or get rid of any mailing lists :)
     
  4. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

  5. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

  6. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Thanks @till for clarificiation. I was not looking at the closed issues as it didn't sound as mailman 3 will never be supported. It would help if it would be clearly stated in release notes, manuals and similar of ISPconfig. (e.g. https://www.ispconfig.org/ispconfig/services-and-functions/). Thanks.

    @Th0m: I would suggest to update your howto and remove the "yet" from: "Warning: mailman2 is not supported in Debian 11, and mailman3 is not (yet) supported by ISPConfig."

    I'll see how to get rid of any mailing lists still in use ;-)
     
  7. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    It's not that mailman3 will never be supported. We just found no developer yet who is willing to implement it or no sponsor to hire an external developer to implement it.
     
  8. ahrasis

    ahrasis Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I responded with the above to a question by @concept21 July last year but I guess this mailmain 3 questions were already asked ever since it was made available to Ubuntu 18.04.4, Ubuntu 20.04 and Debian 11. I haven't really made it works with ISPConfig except partially at that time.

    Other than the above mentioned guide and tip, I guess we can also look into:
    1. Installing and running Mailman 3
    2. Postfix Mailman settings

    I think I will give it a try again later since the difficulty level is just medium but this is not my main priority. I'll report later.
     
  9. daniel712

    daniel712 Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I worked through the install guides yesterday and today... just did lvconvert --merge on the server :))
    It's definitly a high level medium difficulty to install onto an ispconfig3... Luckly i don't use mailman too much, because i didn't realise when i was upgrading to debian 11...
    Would be great of course if there will be a guide to implement it in ispconfig3! Cheers!
    Thanks for all effort and best regards
    Daniel
     
  10. Th0m

    Th0m ISPConfig Developer Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    The whole implementation will need to be rewritten while there is not much demand.
     

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