Mailman not available anymore - ISPconfig 3.2.9 / Ubuntu 22.04

Discussion in 'General' started by KoS, Dec 4, 2022.

  1. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I just wanted to upgrade my mailserver to Ubuntu 22.04 as ISPconfig 3.2.9 supports it -> https://www.ispconfig.org/blog/ispconfig-3-2-9-released/
    Luckily I realized beforehand that Ubuntu 22.04 does not come anymore with mailman 2 but with the newer mailman3, which doesn't seem to be supported by ISPconfig. https://forum.howtoforge.com/threads/mailman3-on-ispconfig3.84253/
    It would be great to have that mentioned somehwere in the release notes, so that people do not upgrade to Ubuntu 22.04 if they want to use mailman.
    The installation manual for ISPconfig, support Ubuntu 22.04 does look like it still supports mailman? https://www.howtoforge.com/ispconfig-autoinstall-debian-ubuntu/

    How are others handling the missing mailman support when upgrading to Ubuntu 22.04?
     
  2. Th0m

    Th0m ISPConfig Developer Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

  3. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Thanks @Th0m for the confirmation that there is really no way forward (currently) with mailman, Ubuntu 22.04 and ISPconfig.
    I'll see if I wait with the upgrade of Ubuntu or get rid of any mailing lists :)
     
  4. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

  5. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

  6. KoS

    KoS Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Thanks @till for clarificiation. I was not looking at the closed issues as it didn't sound as mailman 3 will never be supported. It would help if it would be clearly stated in release notes, manuals and similar of ISPconfig. (e.g. https://www.ispconfig.org/ispconfig/services-and-functions/). Thanks.

    @Th0m: I would suggest to update your howto and remove the "yet" from: "Warning: mailman2 is not supported in Debian 11, and mailman3 is not (yet) supported by ISPConfig."

    I'll see how to get rid of any mailing lists still in use ;-)
     
  7. till

    till Super Moderator Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    It's not that mailman3 will never be supported. We just found no developer yet who is willing to implement it or no sponsor to hire an external developer to implement it.
     
  8. daniel712

    daniel712 Member HowtoForge Supporter

    I worked through the install guides yesterday and today... just did lvconvert --merge on the server :))
    It's definitly a high level medium difficulty to install onto an ispconfig3... Luckly i don't use mailman too much, because i didn't realise when i was upgrading to debian 11...
    Would be great of course if there will be a guide to implement it in ispconfig3! Cheers!
    Thanks for all effort and best regards
    Daniel
     
  9. Th0m

    Th0m ISPConfig Developer Staff Member ISPConfig Developer

    The whole implementation will need to be rewritten while there is not much demand.
     
  10. QuaxEros

    QuaxEros New Member

    I run ISPConfig on really old containers (under Proxmox) because i don't have a solution for Mailman which is crucial for my NGO clients. As a consequence my Postfix install is quite outdated and Rspamd impossible. Where can i state my wish for integration of mailman3 please ?

    And otherwise : Is there a package for Newsletters supported by ISPConfig so i can migrate the lists?

    Edit: I'm listed as new member but on this forum for many years. Thanx guys, for your software!!
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2024 at 4:34 PM
  11. Taleman

    Taleman Well-Known Member HowtoForge Supporter

    Last edited: Oct 29, 2024 at 8:14 PM
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