Yup i know i'm DUMB, REAL DUMB During the CentOS perfect install at the point of setting the MySQL password i entered a random password (generated for me and saved). But the problem is the password contained control chars that i didnt notice. End result ----- root password is set but i dont know what it is. Can someone please help. I have tried several 'change forgotten root password' pages on the net but none have worked. The db is empty so i have no problems deleting MySQL and starting that bit again but how do i do that ?????? I tried 'yum remove mysql mysql-devel mysql-server' then 'yum install mysql mysql-devel mysql-server' but password seems to still be set. HEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please