I am using debian lenny with the perfect setup and this is a sample list from top: Code: mysql 152304 kB /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file ... 2462 clamav 98948 kB /usr/sbin/clamd 7210 www-data 91252 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7329 www-data 86208 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7293 www-data 85724 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7213 www-data 83936 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7215 www-data 83932 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7307 www-data 83404 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7214 www-data 83148 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7257 www-data 83148 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7305 www-data 82444 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7212 www-data 82344 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7306 www-data 82184 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7331 www-data 79060 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7256 www-data 78760 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7261 www-data 78760 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7330 www-data 78760 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7373 www-data 78740 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7278 www-data 78628 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7372 www-data 78328 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 3312 root 78196 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 7208 www-data 67260 kB /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start 28172 amavis 57696 kB amavisd (ch18-avail) 28715 amavis 57288 kB amavisd (ch15-avail) 1394 amavis 54420 kB amavisd (master) 1923 root 47520 kB /usr/sbin/lwresd 1798 root 29040 kB /usr/sbin/spamd --create-prefs --max-children 5 --helper-home-dir -d --pidfile=/ ... 1806 root 29040 kB spamd child 1807 root 29040 kB spamd child 1835 root 28428 kB /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c3 29115 root 23980 kB /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock 7190 root 14036 kB /usr/share/webmin/proc/index_size.cgi 3007 root 12508 kB /usr/sbin/smbd -D 3073 root 12508 kB /usr/sbin/smbd -D 3372 root 12440 kB /usr/bin/perl /usr/share/webmin/miniserv.pl /etc/webmin/miniserv.conf 7275 postfix 11744 kB smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -c -o stress 7353 postfix 11744 kB smtpd -n smtp -t inet -u -c -o stress 3116 root 9116 kB /usr/sbin/winbindd 3129 root 9116 kB /usr/sbin/winbindd 3074 root 8360 kB /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3079 root 8360 kB /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3080 root 8360 kB /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3081 root 8360 kB /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 3082 root 8360 kB /usr/sbin/saslauthd -a pam -c -m /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd -r -n 5 20610 root 8160 kB sshd: root@pts/0 7403 postfix 8116 kB trivial-rewrite -n rewrite -t unix -u -c 7404 postfix 8104 kB proxymap -t unix -u 18826 postfix 8020 kB qmgr -l -t fifo -u 7140 web2 7796 kB I am not sure why all of these processes takes up so much ram if not needed. Is there anyway to tweak and tune these processes so that they dont take up much more memory. Thanks.
There are a lot of infos in the internet on how to tune apache if you search for them with e.g. goole
Memory ISPConfig3 Did You find anything useful? I have noticed that my ISPConfig3 setup on ProxMox/OpenVZ server seems to use a lot more memory than ISPConfig2 on VMWare. I'm wondering what could cause that.
ISPConfig 3 uses a completely different setup with other daemons and especially a much better spamfilter etc. Other daemons might need system resources and also newer versions of the same software like apache, spamassassin and clamav etc. might need more ram. ISPConfig itself does not need any permanent system resources as it is just a script that is run by cron.
Thx, Till. I'm actually wondering if the OpenVZ is to be blamed here. I have read from some sources that it's use of memory is somehow 'unorthodox'. I'm just trying to figure out how to get more out of our servers. I keep getting the infamous PHP 'Out of memory' error too often. Allocated Trillion Billion bytes when only 300000 was requested. I need to learn more about Bean counters. Only I have never been too good at counting
This tutorial might be of interest: http://www.howtoforge.com/splitting-resources-evenly-between-openvz-vms-with-vzsplit
I will suggest that the "much better spamfilter" be disabled by default because: 1) it's 3 daemons with their subprocesses use 200+MB of committed memory right out of the box. 2) The amavisd requires fixing just to start it. 3) The content filter is plain stupid! We are a software development company and we had a whole day lost on a project until finding out that it blocks our own email and clients didn't receive their updates that contained zipped exe files (remember software company). Some "much better" programmer has been coding unchecked there. 4) Having an antivirus service on a web server IS BAD DECISION! You can be flooded your performance WILL be hampered when a large attachment is present. Generally content filters are supposed to go on separate servers. The content filter should be disabled by default and whoever want's it could enable it. It doesn't run out of the box anyway.
The content filter runs out of the box perfectly if the system is installed as described in the perfect setup guide. I'am doing these installations daily and there are > 10 000 installations with ISPConfig out there were it works. So instead of claiming that it does not work gernerally while it just not worked for you, why did you not just asked if you had a problem? to 3) I work also in a software company and it never blocked any zip file in the last year since we use it, so the question is which settings you use. Amavisd is a widely used spamfilter. to 4) That was your decision. ISPConfig is a multi server system to separate mail and webserver. If you decide to install web and mailserver on one machine, dont blame the software for it.
Well we used the OFFICIAL guide from this url http://www.ispconfig.org/docs/INSTALL_DEBIAN_4.0.txt The perfectly hidden one was not found at the time. And it did NOT work out of the box. We found our way, but still out of the box it didn't work. errr that's the ISPC3 forum. Remember? Wishful thinking maybe? I've fixed the problem. I was speaking of out of the box which is pretty different thing. That's like claiming every crash is survivable because you survived one. Most normal people don't spend their lives tweaking settings. And most admins don't really understand business requirements so this is a problem. errr that's the ISPC3 forum. Again. Would you be so kind to point me out how to configure a ispc3 cluster? That would be very helpful. But as far as I've read your own comments on people's questions about it the answer was: "It's not implemented." In my understanding "multi server system" means support for multiple servers to be used in one system and not some silly mapping to other single servers.
Sure very hidden ispconfig documentation page I installed a lot of servers with this guide and it works fine for me and many others without any tweaks needed. No, just ispconfig 3 statistics. And yes, I know the difference between ispconfig 2 and 3 There are about 300 - 400 ISPConfig 3 downloads per day without the downloads for updates and without downloads for beta and RC releases. So when you claim in your post that ISPConfig setup is not working out of the box in general and it's just silly. The posts talked about mirroring for load balancing and not of running services on different servers like separate mail, web and dns servers what you claimed is not possible. Just select expert mode when you install ispconfig on the second server and you will be asked if the server shall join a master server. I know several ISP's running ispconfig clusters with separated services in production enviroments.
