I recently migrated servers from centos7/ispconfig3.1x to centos8/3.2 largely successful (read prior issues) - and mailman is operational as far as accessing the lists and doing the functions. BUT - I cannot send out any posts to [email protected] (the address that used to work just fine!) I get now we have various suspects: in /etc/mailman Code: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 27 10:11 aliases -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 12288 Dec 27 10:11 aliases.db -rw-r--r--. 1 root mailman 4498 Dec 27 09:31 mm_cfg.py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4498 Dec 27 09:31 mm_cfg.py~ -rw-r--r--. 1 root mailman 14103 Nov 3 15:29 sitelist.cfg drwxr-sr-x. 42 root mailman 4096 Nov 3 15:29 templates -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Sep 29 19:23 virtual-mailman -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12288 Oct 18 14:16 virtual-mailman.db -rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman 152 Oct 18 14:16 virtual_to_transport.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 152 Oct 18 14:16 virtual_to_transport.sh~ aliases and virtual-mailman are both zero length. in /var/lib/mailman/data: Code: drwxrwsr-x. 2 root mailman 4096 Dec 27 09:35 . drwxrwsr-x. 6 root mailman 79 Nov 3 15:29 .. lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 20 Sep 1 12:13 aliases -> /etc/mailman/aliases -rw-r----- 1 root mailman 12288 Dec 27 09:36 aliases.db -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 27561 Aug 31 13:17 heldmsg-theeldestgeek-73.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4158 Sep 15 15:40 heldmsg-theeldestgeek-74.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4222 Sep 16 13:33 heldmsg-theeldestgeek-75.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 4418 Oct 22 00:51 heldmsg-theeldestgeek-76.pck -rw-rw-r-- 1 mailman mailman 6211 Oct 27 17:39 heldmsg-theeldestgeek-77.pck -rw------- 1 mailman mailman 79857 Oct 27 2017 owner-bounces.mbox lrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 25 Nov 3 15:29 sitelist.cfg -> /etc/mailman/sitelist.cfg -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 2156 May 28 2018 transport-mailman -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 12288 Dec 27 09:31 transport-mailman.db -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 0 Jun 13 2013 virtual-mailman -rw-r--r-- 1 root mailman 12288 Dec 27 09:31 virtual-mailman.db the virtual-mailman is still 0, the transport-mailman contains: Code: # This file is generated by Mailman, and is kept in sync with the binary hash # file virtual-mailman.db. YOU SHOULD NOT MANUALLY EDIT THIS FILE unless you # know what you're doing, and can keep the two files properly in sync. If you # screw it up, you're on your own. # # Note that you should already have this virtual domain set up properly in # your Postfix installation. See README.POSTFIX for details. # LOOP ADDRESSES START [email protected] local [email protected] local # LOOP ADDRESSES END # STANZA START: theeldestgeek # CREATED: Mon May 28 17:33:21 2018 [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local # STANZA END: theeldestgeek # STANZA START: mailman # CREATED: Mon May 28 17:33:21 2018 [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local # STANZA END: mailman # STANZA START: toptech # CREATED: Mon May 28 17:33:21 2018 [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local [email protected] local # STANZA END: toptech in my /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py: Code: # Default domain for email addresses of newly created MLs DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ns10.cdbsystems.com' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Default host for web interface of newly created MLs DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'ns10.cdbsystems.com' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Required when setting any of its arguments. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) #------------------------------------------------------------- # The default language for this server. DEFAULT_SERVER_LANGUAGE = 'en' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Iirc this was used in pre 2.1, leave it for now USE_ENVELOPE_SENDER = 0 # Still used? #------------------------------------------------------------- # Unset send_reminders on newly created lists DEFAULT_SEND_REMINDERS = 0 #------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment this if you configured your MTA such that it # automatically recognizes newly created lists. # (see /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Exim4.Debian or # /usr/share/mailman/postfix-to-mailman.py) # MTA=None # Misnomer, suppresses alias output on newlist #------------------------------------------------------------- # Uncomment if you use Postfix virtual domains (but not # postfix-to-mailman.py), but be sure to see # /usr/share/doc/mailman/README.Debian first. MTA='Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['theeldestgeek.com', 'toptechva.com'] I believe this was migrated off the old server. all looks more or less correct apart from the virtual-mailman and aliases?? in /etc/postfix/main.cf I have lines: alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases and alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases further down: virtual_alias_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_domains.cf virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_email2email.cf virtual_mailbox_domains = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_domains.cf virtual_mailbox_maps = proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_mailboxes.cf transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/transport-mailman, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_transports.cf so - any ideas? Also I note that when I created a new mailman list TEG in ispconfig - NO entry was made in ANY file! no trace of TEG. but it gave no error. When ispconfig creates a new mailman list what files are altered in what folders? inquiring minds and all that! happy holidays to all
I don't use mailman nor centos, but what version of postfix do you have (and/or what do you have for 'enable_original_recipient' setting)? If it's 'yes', try changing to 'no' temporarily and test if mailman works (note it might cause other issues with delivery, but test if mailman is affected).
post is version 3.31. enable_original_recipient is set to yes, but I remember some problems getting it to work before under ispconfig 3.11, and I'm sure THATS not the problem. something to do with the virtual_domain setup and [email protected] triggering the list, but I dont remember THAT exactly!
I've been looking back over the centos 8 perfect server which I used https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial...stfix-dovecot-and-ispconfig/#-install-mailman and surely the mailman installation instructions are missing a LOT??? it mentions putting the mailman stanza into /etc/aliases (not /etc/mailman/aliases). --snip-- ## mailman mailing list mailman: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman" mailman-admin: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman admin mailman" mailman-bounces: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman bounces mailman" mailman-confirm: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman confirm mailman" mailman-join: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman join mailman" mailman-leave: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman leave mailman" mailman-owner: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman owner mailman" mailman-request: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman request mailman" mailman-subscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman subscribe mailman" mailman-unsubscribe: "|/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman unsubscribe mailman" --snip-- but NO reference in postfix main.cf or master.cf to aliases (and certainly not /etc/aliases???) no virtual domains no nothing. arent we missing a LOT of the install instructions???
ENLIGHTENMENT - at least a work around: Playing around a good bit and recreating some of the additional steps in centos 7 server that were missing from centos 8. I've reached an interesting situation. Ispconfig3 cannot create any mailing list. when I make a new one, no file appears altered anywhere! but the /usr/lib/mailman/bin/newlist infact makes new lists. they seem to alter 3 sets of files: in /var/lib/mailman/data entries are made in aliases (which I symlinked to /etc/mailman/aliases) and transport-mailman (not symlinked). there is a file virtual-mailman in /var/lib/mailman/data which is NOT altered! back in /etc/mailman we see that the file virtual-mailman is altered (and does not affected in the var/lib/mailman/data folder). newlist does create the aliases.db via a call to newaliases, but does NOT create virtual-mailman.db or transport-mailman.db! so those have to be created manually with postmap /etc/mailman/transport-! (or the lists dont work of course). /etc/postfix/main.cf contains: alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases and virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/mailman/virtual-mailman, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_forwardings.cf, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_alias_maps.cf, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_email2email.cf as well as transport_maps = hash:/var/lib/mailman/data/transport-mailman, proxy:mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual_transports.cf in /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py: # Default domain for email addresses of newly created MLs #was DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'ns10.cdbsystems.com' DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'theeldestgeek.com' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Default host for web interface of newly created MLs #DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'ns10.cdbsystems.com' DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'lists.theeldestgeek.com' #------------------------------------------------------------- # Required when setting any of its arguments. add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) -- as well as later: MTA='Postfix' POSTFIX_STYLE_VIRTUAL_DOMAINS = ['lists.theeldestgeek.com','theeldestgeek.com', 'toptechva.com'] VIRTUAL_MAILMAN_LOCAL_DOMAIN = 'localhost' Finally now I could post to a newly created list with the newlist command (of course does not show up in ispconfigs lists!) so now I manually added the stanzas I made duplicating a newlist created block with ones for theeldestgeek (the list I had before, and which the data was all knows to mailman, but was inaccessible!) made the entries in aliases, and virtual-mailman - ran newaliases and postmap /etc/mailman/virtual-mailman, and voila! I can post to my old mailman list as I did before the mirgration! This may not be clean, but it does work. now maybe I can work out why ispconfig3 is not generating lists itself! hopefully this will help someone! cdb.
