i have been reading up on other users having problems with this, i have the output of netstat taP, Active Internet connections (servers and established) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp 0 0 localhost:mysql *:* LISTEN 5429/mysqld tcp 0 0 *:webcache *:* LISTEN 16315/apache2 tcp 0 0 *:www *:* LISTEN 16315/apache2 tcp 0 0 localhost:ipp *:* LISTEN 5518/cupsd tcp 1 0 192.168.0.124:45659 pz-in-f101.1e100.ne:www CLOSE_WAIT 6899/firefox tcp6 0 0 [::]:5900 [::]:* LISTEN 6476/vino-server tcp6 10 0 192.168.0.124%1346:5900 rrcnw.com:51938 ESTABLISHED 6476/vino-server Also when i /etc/init.d/mydns start there is no confirmation that is is started. Thanks in advance Ernie