Hi I'm interested in using Proxmox ( https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Jessie ) and/or Ispconfig 3 ( https://www.howtoforge.com/installing-openvz-plus-management-of-vms-through-ispconfig-3-debian-6.0) for vps. I would like to use Ispconfig 3 for openvz webservers and Proxmox for everything else( https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/features ). Is this possible? If so how?
Proxmox doesn't support openvz any more. It uses KVM and LXC containers. Otherwise proxmox works great. I have my production server running proxmox at the node level with isp config installed there, and then run two/three vm's for other jobs. My test server though is running proxmox at the node level, and ispconfig is installed into a KVM vm. There is a proxmox/ispconfig module that I've downloaded from github but haven't looked at it yet.
Can I install both proxmox and ispconfig 3 openvz on debian 6 and use ispconfig for openvz and proxmox for kvm and lxc? If so can I someone tell me how to do it?
No. Proxmox 4.x runs on top of Debian 8. Unless you use a really old version that supports openvz. Then you would have to install ispconfig at the node level (like I have).. The issue then is of security and keeping both ispconfig and proxmox in synce with the vm number's to use.,
This is what I have so far: I installed proxmox 3 (debian 7) then I installed ispconfig 3.0.5.4 vps( https://www.howtoforge.com/installing-openvz-plus-management-of-vms-through-ispconfig-3-debian-6.0 ) set up afterwards. I could get to my proxmox panel. When I installed openvz and ispconfig I see proxmox on grub. I see the ispconfig panel but now I can't see my proxmox panel. What could I be doing wrong?
It has to be debian 7 because I need openvz and openvz doesn't work on debian 8 and debian 6 is no longer supported.
Openvz does work on debian 8 if you use the older wheezy kernel and disable systemd on the host. I expect there will be a newer kernel for it some day, brought over from the new openvz 7. FWIW, OpenVZ 7.0 supports both openvz (not lxc) containers, as well as KVM/QEMU virtual machines. It doesn't have a gui, but supports management via libvirt, which as I understand should allow various other management tools to work with it out of the box (haven't tried it myself).
Why not use 2 different machine for this? 1 with proxmox and one for openvz with ispconfig? I use only proxmox for my virtual machines, 2 promox servers in cluster, and then I create a login in both proxmox and ispconfig if they have a vps and services in ispconfig.
I'm trying a project on putting them on one host. I just want to see if it will work. Any guide on how to do it? Or can someone show me how to set it up? I really want an "Ispconfig 3.1 interface much easier for customers . They will use Ispconfig but I still want to use Proxmox 4 for my personal machines for other projects. Is there a guide on openvz on debian 8?
Install debian 8 as normal. Add apt source for both jessie and wheezy packages (https://download.openvz.org/debian/). Install all userspace tools from jessie, but openvz kernel from wheezy. Uninstall systemd (apt-get install sysvinit-core). Reboot.
Ok thanks I'll try. Do you think it will work if I install it on proxmox 4 iso or proxmox 3 will it work together?
Don't use proxmox iso. Install debian and then follow https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Wheezy to get proxmox 3 and openvz support. Of course leave the Jessie Debian entries in the soruces list but add the wheezy proxmox ones.
I only have experiance with proxmox 4.2-4.3 so can't help with the openvz support. The proxmox 4.x ISO doesn't give you any control about how the system is setup. It's best to do a standard debian install first and then add in proxmox.
This is what I have so far: I'm doing this tutorial with these commands: 1: apt-get install sysvinit-core -y 2: apt-get remove linux-image-amd64 linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 linux-base -y 3: update-grub https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_Wheezy I'm stuck at step 1. After I rebooted I see debian 8 advanced settings in the grub. I go there and I see proxmox on grub. I go there and I only get a black screen. Did I do something wrong?
Is it wise to have ISPC at the same level of Proxmox? You're exposing something thought for an internal network (The Proxmox management interface) to the whole Internet... I usually have one/two VMs inside Proxmox that host the websites. Another VM (w/ autostart) can be the VPN server to let *some* users access the Proxmox interface. Or you could create a vhost in ISPC that acts as a reverse proxy, but that will be quite limiting (I don't think you could make the remote console work). ... Or maybe I'm just too paranoid...
That's what I said For production I have 2 VMs in Proxmox. In one I have the master ISPC with the sites I control (the critical ones) and nobody can access the ISPC panel (firewalled) from the outside. On the second VM I have the slave ISPC with users' sites, that they access only via ftps (and http/https, obv). Neither VM can access the Proxmox management interface, that's bound to a private network only accessible by VPN (that is managed by a separate server). With this setup I can move the VMs from one node to any other w/o downtime (all Proxmox nodes use a shared storage pool on a Dell MD3200) -- but even if you don't have a single shared storage it's possible to move the VMs, it's just slower (first move VM storage to a NAS accessible by both nodes [1], move the VM to the other host, then move the storage from the NAS to the node's local storage). I really don't understand who uses paravirtualization: the performance difference can hardly be measured (~1-2% faster than full virtualization) and it's way more limiting. [1] if you have a NAS that allows exporting some space as iSCSI LUN, it's more performing to use that LUN as shared storage using LVM volumes as disks (no need for a cluster fs, unless you need to share a single volume between two active machines).
I would like to use isp 3 for vps service ( I have a custom wordpress plugin) and proxmox for windows and personal isp ³
