Hmm this is the error I seem to be getting. I followed the tutorial http://howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-lenny-debian-5.0-with-bind-and-dovecot-ispconfig-3. Now of course some variables I had were as follows; * its a amd64 bit system * it is a VPS, so i had to compile pureftp to make it work * lastly I would like it to be a mail server, but I am alright with using a relay So far everything seems to be working but here is the mail log I get; Code: Nov 2 20:40:01 websvr3 postfix/postqueue[28308]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly Nov 2 20:45:01 websvr3 dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:45:01 websvr3 dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:45:01 websvr3 sm-mta[1783]: oA2Hj1NL001783: localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4 Nov 2 20:45:01 websvr3 postfix/postqueue[1912]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly Nov 2 20:50:01 websvr3 dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:50:01 websvr3 dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:50:01 websvr3 sm-mta[3464]: oA2Ho1nC003464: localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4 Nov 2 20:50:01 websvr3 postfix/postqueue[3573]: warning: Mail system is down -- accessing queue directly Nov 2 20:55:02 websvr3 dovecot: imap-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:55:02 websvr3 dovecot: pop3-login: Disconnected: rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured Nov 2 20:55:02 websvr3 sm-mta[15481]: oA2Ht25V015481: localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4 any help would be appericated as I have been searching through the forums for a few days and not found anything that seems to correct my issue.