I guess I don't have a choice. I will either have to install PHP manually or use another Linux distribution. Without PHP4, I cannot get PHPBB2, nor osCommerce to run. Can you offer any recommendations on installing PHP4 manually? Last time I used the installation instructions from PHP.net and it did not go so well. This is why I had to reinstall my Fedora server. Would it be better to install Apache seperately, then install PHP4 afterwards?